Panorama, Copeland, and Myatt, In Context

Since excerpts featuring Myatt from the 2000 (CE) Panorama TV program about Copeland are flying around in cyberspace again, and being commented upon, it is perhaps germane to give some details about this program and David Myatt’s part in it, thus giving the context to the statements made by Myatt.

One of these excerpts from the program is at:

http://www.dailymotion.com (Copeland video)

A complete transcript of the program is available at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/(transcript)

Background

The program itself was produced by Nick Lowles, who for many years has worked for the notorious pro-Zionist Searchlight organization, and who is now editor of the Searchlight magazine. Searchlight itself has long been rumored to be an MI5 – a British government – asset, specializing in not only spreading rumors and dis-information about those the government deems “right-wing extremists”, but also in obtaining, by dubious means, confidential information and documents about its opponents, all of whom just happen to be anti-Zionist. These dubious means of obtaining information about anti-Zionist “extremists” include burglary of people’s homes and places of work, covert surveillance (often using electronic listening and video devices) and obtaining personal information about people from government and Police databases, usually by bribing people with access to such information, or using contacts in the “intelligence community” and in government.

Thus the program itself was hardly an unbiased documentary, given the opinions and past of its producer, and given the inordinate amount of time given to the opinions of Gerry Gable, another notorious Searchlight operative and another long term MI5 asset.

The program also clearly had an agenda, clearly stated by Gable at the end of the program: Who – other than Copeland – is responsible for all of this? Responsible for the killings, the terror?

The answer that the program gives is that David Myatt was and is responsible. This theme was picked up by many newspapers after the program’s transmission, with one printing a photograph of Myatt on its front-page with the headline: “This is the man who shaped mind of a bomber; Cycling the lanes around Malvern, the mentor who drove David Copeland to kill…” and with the story beginning:

” Riding a bicycle around his Worcestershire home town sporting a wizard-like beard and quirky dress-sense, the former monk could easily pass as a country eccentric or off-beat intellectual.

But behind David Myatt’s studious exterior lies a more sinister character that has been at the forefront of extreme right-wing ideology in Britain since the mid-1960s. Myatt… was the brains behind the country’s most openly neo-nazi organization…..”

Thus, it seems that it was the intention of Gable and his fellow Zionists such as Lowles and Michael Whine (of the Board of Deputies of British Jews) – and with the help of the Panorama program about Copeland – to “point the finger” at Myatt and have the Police sent Myatt to jail for a very long time.

Myatt’s Part in Context

For several days before being accosted by the Panorama TV crew (which included “minders”, or bodyguards, given Myatt’s reputation for violence) Myatt was followed around – to and from his then place of work (a farm) – by a large red van which covertly filmed and photographed him, his place of work, and his home, which home he shared with his wife and family.

After several days of this covert surveillance, Myatt was accosted by the TV crew early one rainy and Winter morning while on his way to work. As is evident from the program, Myatt – well spoken, with a soft, educated accent – was polite, and restrained. As given in the official transcript:

McLAGAN
Mr Myatt, we’re from the BBC. We’re from Panorama. We wanted to ask you some questions about the NSM and David Copeland, the London nailbomber.

DAVID MYATT
I have no comment to make.

McLAGAN
You called for the creation of racial tension and that’s exactly what Copeland did. You inspired Copeland indirectly to do what he did.

MYATT
I have no comment about anything to do with that.

Here, the scene shifts to give another view of Myatt and the TV crew, taken from behind, and one of the burly minders can just be seen (with his face blanked out) on the right hand side.

Then – as is common practice – some further comments by Myatt were edited out for transmission, and the edited interview of the encounter continues with:

McLAGAN
But two years ago, when you were head of the NSM, the NSM was calling for the creation of racial terror with bombs.

MYATT
I have no comment to make about the past, as I said, and as…

Here Myatt, in saying “as I said…” is referring to some comments edited out for transmission, which comments referred to his conversion to Islam some months earlier.

The broadcast conversation continues:

McLAGAN
Well the fact that you’re making no comment, doesn’t that make it clear that you are excepting some responsibility?

MYATT
I have no comment to make about responsibility and anything to do with that.

McLAGAN
Any guilt?

MYATT
What I feel is between me and God. It is nothing to be made public. It is a private matter.

Myatt’s reference to “God” refers back to his edited-out comment about his recent conversion to Islam.

Myatt then went on, in the Muslim persona he had by that time adopted (for whatever reason and from whatever motive), to explain that he would be happy to continue the interview, and answer any questions, later than day or at a convenient time, at his local Mosque with the Imaam of the Mosque present. These further comments, by Myatt, were never broadcast.

Myatt’s personal appearance in the program is noteworthy because his mustache is shaved in the fashion of Muslims following what is called Hanafi fiqh – that is, trimmed and shaved well above the upper lip.

Also relevant to Myatt’s comments – apart from his then public persona as a Muslim – is the fact that he was, at the time, still on bail following his arrest, over a year earlier, by Detectives from Scotland Yard’s SO12 unit, when his house was searched for seven hours by seven Police officers, and computers and other items seized. Myatt was facing charges of conspiracy to murder, incitement to racial hatred, and incitement to murder, and – as a condition of his bail – had to regularly report to a London Police station where he was interrogated by officers from Special Branch. In addition, some months earlier, Myatt had been questioned, at his home, and once at Oxford Police Station, by Detectives from the Anti-Terrorism branch.

Speculations

Seasoned observers of Myatt’s peregrinations and activities will quite naturally assume that one of the practical reasons Myatt may have adopted his Muslim persona some time before this BBC “interview” – and made his comments about God during that interview – was in preparation for what he then assumed would be his forthcoming trial, in a British Court of Law, on charges of incitement and conspiracy, connected to both the neo-nazi NSM and Copeland.

Perhaps Myatt intended to portray himself as some “devout Muslim”, or perhaps – and this is more likely, in my view – he intended to take himself to some Muslim country from whence he could not be extradited, or where he would simply disappear from public view. For he had already made arrangements to visit Iran (which even then welcomed “holocaust deniers”), and had already begun writing polemical, Islamist, articles in support of the Taliban, so that it is plausible that his intention, after creating a public Muslim persona for himself – helped by the Panorama program which we may assume he was delighted to take advantage of to bolster his Muslim credentials – was to decamp to Egypt, or Afghanistan, or some other Muslim country.

Whatever the reason, some months after the Panorama program was broadcast, the British Police dropped its criminal investigation of Myatt’s activities, citing “insufficient evidence to proceed to trial”. As for Myatt himself, he would continue to pen his Islamist tracts and openly agitate for Jihad against the West, earning a reputation which led to him being mentioned at several NATO conferences into Islamic extremism; being called, by the author Martin Amis, a ferocious jihadi, and being the subject of full page article in The Times, of London, newspaper under the headline Muslim Extremists in Britain.

If we assume that Myatt had – on the spur of the moment when approached by the TV crew – intended to use his appearance in the Panorama program to boost his Muslim credentials, world-wide, then it perhaps did not work out as he might have wished. For the editors of that program made no mention whatsoever of Myatt’s conversion to Islam, and edited out all his comments about Islam, Allah, and his conversion, and instead choose to portray him as still a die-hard neo-nazi, leaving in only his apparently odd statement about “God”.

^^^

Update:

As for items such as the statement at http://www.aryan-nations.org/reichsfolk/reply1.html – which were allegedly issued by Myatt sometime in 2000 CE after the Panorama program was broadcast – it is my view that these, if genuine, were either merely Myatt’s rather cynical (and some might argue, sinister) attempts at that particular time to “play both sides against the middle”; or (more likely) a propagandistic ruse designed to keep his enemies, and the Police and the security services, guessing about his real intentions. That the Reply to Allegations item contains an old recycled article written by Myatt some time before his conversion to Islam – rather than a newly written item – seems, in my view, to support the propaganda ruse theory.


The ONA, Myatt, and WSA352

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The ONA, Myatt, and WSA352

I have been quietly observing and studying Satanism and the ONA from a scholastic perspective for quite some time now. Myatt was perhaps what initially sparked interest in me to keep an armature academic eye on the ONA.

I know the ONA has been around for a long time. During which time it “spawned” or influenced many spin-offs. Just to list a few of the well known ones:
1. Order Sinistra Vivendi
2. Order of the Deorc Fyre
3. Order of the Left Hand Path
4. Temple ov Blood
5. Temple of Them.

The first things I noticed early on with these old spin-offs of the ONA is that they were unfortunately not very original and not creative at all. Something which both Myatt and the ONA was well endowed with.

You’ll notice they all aren’t very creative with their own names. It’s either “Order,” or “Temple.” Now the ONA was original and creative with its name. This opinion is based on that fact that during the era the ONA first came into existence there was basically only the Church of Satan, and the Temple of Set. Then all of a sudden you had this Satanic organization that broke the mold and called itself the Order of Nine Angles.

The second thing I noticed all of these old spin-offs have in common is that they seemed to have filtered out the most crucial foundation of their parent, the ONA, which is David Myatt and traded him off for more occult oriented filler, plus a large dose of some very imaginative, unenlightening Satanism. In essence, they filtered out the alcohol which is the potency of the ONA and added watered down juice.

This of course affects these old spin-off, and we can see this effect not only in the types of people such spin-off attracted, but more importantly in the “potency” or “volatileness” of such spin-off.

It felt as if Myatt and C18 brought into being a very potent and volatile organization (ONA) which devolved and degenerated into chaos magic and vampire clubs.

For the longest time, it seemed as if the ONA had come to and end, along with the Church of Satan, and the Temple of Set. Interest in such things seemed to dwindle. Nothing new came out in the form of new insights, or fresh new material. It was all old and outdated, and the old was dying.

Then, one day, out of nowhere, a strange group, with a very unique and bizarre name, the “White Star Acception” quietly came into the scene.

It wasn’t an old boring “Order this,” or a “Temple that.” It was “The Acception.” It was the “Black this” or the “Evil that.” It was a “White Star,” and even more strange was the fact that that White Star was named after a beautiful orange blossom. And to top that strangeness, the Acception came with a weird string of numbers attached to its name. Which was of course completely unheard of in Satanism.

One would suspect, from such a unique and original name, that this WSA352 was not going to be like the others. I waited silently and just watched. Curious… bewildered.

After awhile I would learn that this WSA352 was associated with the ONA. I immediately assumed that it was just another spin-off, and that it will end up being like the other 5 Orders and Temples.

We’ll all just hear the same things again. The same chaos magic. The same sinister vampire things. The same secret powers. The same silencing of Myatt. But I was wrong.

This WSA brought Myatt, his creativity, and radicalism, back into the ONA; and even spoke highly of him. I thought this was a new twist. At last, I see an offspring of the ONA that acknowledges the radical mind that gave birth to it. What else was to come out of the WSA? I silently waited and observed.

I honestly did not expect anything spectacular in the “theology,” and “theory” department. I had seen the other spin-offs, which were disappointing. I was wrong.

Month after month this site just kept on producing a fresh new kind and style of “Satanism” which I had never encountered before. “Progressive Satanism” as the WSA calls it. A Satanism that feels very “oriental” and illuminating. A Satanism that is not even Satanism.

Intrigued, I searched the internet for what chapters I could find on this “Opus Vrilis” this WSA sometimes quietly refers to. And after reading what chapters I had found, and what new articles were published here, I realized that this WSA was an entirely and completly different organism I had never encountered before.

It was “tribal,” it felt imbued with a “feminine essence” or a living anima. It wasn’t individualist. It was collective. It has business and making money as one of its objectives. It was hereditary. Children of sisters and brothers are born members. I could barely detect anything resembling the occult in most of the articles here. Nobody talked about magic that I was used to hearing. But I knew from reading Opus Vrilis that deep “magical” practices and Naos were a part of WSA. Satan was rarely mentioned. There were all these insights and things imported from things like Theravada Buddhism, Shaivism, Mon-Khmer Shaktism, Vama Marga.

And not the watered down Western and bastardized understandings of such things either. Things like “tantra,” “Vama Marga,” “Kali Kula,” etc., mind you. The WSA, thru Chloe and Kayla, seemed to have a certain authentic, and genuine, oriental connection and understandings of such, which shows in your writings; in the form of things I had never seen written associated with such bastardized words before. Things that were original, or more accurately, alien to the occidental mind. Things the Satanist, and Westerner pretends to know from the reading of books written by Westerners who misrepresented, or misunderstood such Eastern things; were being presented by a mind that had direct ancestral links to such things.

What next I wondered, fascinated? So far they are unique and original. So far they seem to understand Myatt. Is this all they could be? Just a new school of thought? Just a philosophical numinous mixture of East and West?

Now, I am beginning to see… to understand that this WSA has a very different usage and meaning of the word “Sinister.” A usage and meaning which reminds me of a time perhaps when Myatt was younger and involved in a violent and practical organization or two (C18 & C88).

Now I am seeing that the WSA’s “sinister” and “sinister tribe” is violent, criminal, and gang culture oriented. A “hybrid” as it even describes itself of a “gang and a religious cult.” As if to say that the WSA had traded in the occult ramblings of those other ONA spin-offs for guns, criminal behavior, extortion, organized crime! Things normally associated with mobs, mafias, the Chinese Tongs and Triad. And the WSA even openly writtes about such things in their sinister fiction.

This mixture of genuinely illuminating “software,” with the “hardware” of gangs and criminal organizations is a volatile and potent mixture. A mixture that attracts less vampires, goths, and weirdos, and more people who may actually resonate with the WSA’s very unique Essence, and live it’s Sinister life style in the streets and real world. This alone is scary, the potential. Which potential, you can feel if you study this WSA long enough, and read enough of its material.

And unlike the other spin-offs, which tried to move away from the ONA they came out of to be their own “independent” institutions, this WSA did the whole opposite and moved closer to it’s parent, ultimately changing the ONA. Progressing the ONA. Evolving it. Giving the ONA back its life, essence, potential, and volatile nature. Now i can’t even tell the difference between the ONA and it’s most bizarre and unique offspring, this WSA. Is there a difference?

Your WSA has honestly changed the way I literally see the world and myself. I honestly see value and meaning in the ONA which I had not seen in it before. I have been sincerely practicing the exercises and ordeals in Opus Vrilis. I have already done my ABC’s. I’ve never felt more alive and vital! I have decided to go on my first Insight Role mission. I have committed a minor sinister act. In a few months I will be going to prison for the first time in my life. I’m both afraid, and excited. Thank You

Sinister Regards

B.

Editorial Note:
This item first appeared as a comment – on the WSA352 ONA blog – to one of their articles about Myatt: http://onanxs.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/cavemen/

David Myatt is Da Bomb

The above title is the name of a discussion group, run by cute girl Lucifurry, the blurb for which group runs:

” That’s not the first time the name Myatt and the word Bomb was found in the same sentence! Let’s face it. We love David Myatt… or whatever his name is. “

http://mysatan.ning.com/group/davidmyattisdabomb


ONA: A Briefing

Editorial Note: Reproduced here in its entirety is a recent and interesting article about the ONA and Myatt/Long, written by a member of the ONA.

Since the article represents the personal conclusions, and views, of the author, it therefore does not necessarily reflect either my own conclusions, and views, about Myatt and the ONA, or the views and conclusions of other members and associates of the ONA.

I have added one footnote.

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ONA: A Briefing


Beginnings

With all the BS, mythos, and glam propaganda aside, the “Order of Nine Angles,” may have first begun as a side project of an English bum living in Shropshire England named David W. Myatt: a known trickster and vagabond, or as they call them in England – “Gentlemen of the Road.” Myatt was known to never really have a job.

Supposedly, according to Myatt, sometime in the 60’s a “Lady Master”, of sorts, gave him the “Dark Tradition,” whereafter did he add new elements to it, which thus became the ONA.

It is known that in 1972, Myatt first began to write documents and manuscripts for his ONA with the nom de plume of “Anton Long.”

There are several theories as to how he came up with “Anton Long.” Some say that the river Long Stanton (Long [St] Anton) which he lived by gave him the pen name.

Others say that the river Anton (a tributary of River Test) in Hampshire, which flows by a Parish named Long Parish, gave the name.

In a recent interview (120 yf) “Anton Long” states to his audience “in the know” that:

For a while, I was the Order of Nine Angles, although I expect few, outside of our sinister kindred, will understand what I mean here. Most – and certainly all the mundanes – will assume I mean I was the only person “involved with” some-thing called the ONA, but this is a fallacious assumption, since even from the early days there were always around a dozen or so people “involved”.

What I mean is that the ONA lived in me, or more correctly, was presenced through me; through what I said, did, wrote and by what I inspired, directly – from person to person – or esoterically, through my personae as a shapeshifting player of many and varied rôles. ” – Anton Long, Q.F.A., 120 yf

There very well could have been “a dozen” of people involved with the ONA during it’s first few years. But for many decades, and still currently, the ONA came out of Anton Long. Or he wrote it into existence.

Aeonics & Manifestation

Myatt actually gives the game away when he wrote and taught about his concept of “Aeonic Magic”, for the ONA. In simple exoteric terms, Aeonic Magic is the scalar (time) process of making something real in the future, by manipulating events, people, and their perception, in the present moment. In a way, Aeonics may be understood as a specialized form of demogogy.

An example of “Aeonic Magic” at work in the past is given by the Master Demagogue himself: Hitler. Through his crafty manipulation of the German mass, he eventually enchanted them, and manifested the Third Reich.

With Myatt and the “ONA” the “mass” or target market was enchanted by manuscripts he distributed via post for a small fee.

It is the memetic nature of these early manuscripts that reveals the mechanism of causal manifestation of the ONA.

These MSS, which eventually became the Black Book of Satan, presents to the target market all the information needed for each individual to generate the ONA in the real world.

These MSS presented ONA group initiation rites, as well as self initiation rites; grade rituals; instructions for forming “Temples;” instructions on how to find new membership, and basic religious ceremonies.

Indeed – [revealing his memetic cleverness] – the creation of an ONA “Temple,” (what the Church of Satan would call a “Grotto”) was a required project of an Initiate going through the several ONA Grades.

In the first era of the “ONA,” these MSS and books Myatt distributed and sold via post paid his bills, and gradually materialized the ONA, via new iniates, into the real world.

Obsession

Myatt introduced some innovative concepts into his ONA such as: Acausal, Causal, the word “Nexion” which is the point were acausal and causal meets; and his obsessive Faustian vision of colonizing the galaxy.

The ONA wasn’t his only project. There was also Folk Culture; Reichsfolk; and The Numinous Way. No matter what Myatt seemed to be working on, he imbued each project with the same cluster of “Myattian” concepts. Even when he became a Muslim, he tried to remake Islam by actually grafting such Myattion concepts as “Numinous,” “Acausal,” “Causal,” and his Galactic empire ideas.

It is known (to those that know) that some of Myatt’s favorite TV shows are Star Trek the Next Generation, and Babylon 5. In fact, one aspect of the ONA, called the Star Game, may have been based on a futuristic chess game once shown on Star Trek.

Basics of ONA

Contrary to popular misconception, the ONA is not essentially either “Satanic,” or “Racialist.” Such things, as Anton Long states, are only a means to and END. Things that the genuine initiate of the Sinister Way utilizes to manifest – wyrdfully – a desired END RESULT.

The ONA is Essentially [esoterically] a Methodology. In the same way that science is essentially a Methodology called the “Scientific Method.” It is with the 4 steps of the Scientific Method that science is born, that the Scientist acquire new theories. Such scientific disciplines as biology, geology, physics are outer [Casual] manifestations; or rather: RESULTS of the Scientific Method AFTER the Method has been intelligently APPLIED in the world of Causal Phenomena.

The esoterica of the ONA works according to the same principle. What most people know about the ONA is merely an outer [exoteric] manifestation of an Application of Essential principles. In the same way that an outer scientific theory or discipline can be discarded or trumped by more accurate, more precise, theories and disciplines, so to are the exoteric forms of the ONA subject to change and evolution.

Aims & Objectives

There are only two essential [esoteric] aims and objectives to the ONA, which manifests as several outer forms:

1) That Neitzschean imperative to sublimate – surmount – the Self. To strive by one’s own effort to become more than what one is. To struggle for you highest potential.

2) The evolution, or progressive engineering of Human Civilization toward it highest conceivable potential.

As Anton Long states in a recent interview:

Essentially, the essence of my life, the foundation of my own individual being, has been and still is my esoteric quest: my journeyings among and exploration and experience of, the sinister way; my dark desire to find and go beyond my own limits and to not accept nor be content with the answers, the limits, set and manufactured by others, of and in whatever causal time and place.

My fundamental aims have always been to change myself, others, and our world – to presence, to revel-in, to become, to experience, the very quintessence of life itself. For I have always intuitively felt since a very early age that we human beings have immense potential; that we are and can be far more than we realize; that we need to experience and be inspired; that we need to dream great dreams; that we need to see restrictions for the impersonal tyranny they are; and that we living, human, beings are somehow and in some way a connexion to other life, to the very living beings that are Nature and the Cosmos beyond. That is, I have always felt that we, as individuals, can participate in and somehow create our own evolution; that we have the potential to consciously bring about changes within ourselves, within others, within the world, and within the Cosmos itself – to participate in the mystery and the joy of creation, exploration and evolution. ” – Anton Long, Q.F.A., 120 yf


Final Words

It can be argued that the ONA is not real, or never was real (as some like Blackwood states). It can be said that the ONA is a mere internet organization. These opinions are based on a lack of understanding of the essential Methodology of the ONA.

The ONA, as Myatt has made it, is a memetic seed, which was designed from the very beginning to take root in just one fertile mind. And from even one fertile mind, this individual has all the information needed to manifest the ONA.

This is an ingenious defense mechanism, which works in the same way a holographic film works. Even if the holographic film were to be broken into pieces. Each piece has the entire coding within it to produce the same Whole hologram. In this way, so long as there is one individual, inside whose mind the ONA exists, the Order of Nine Angles will always have a Nexion to remanifest itself in the Causal World. [See Editorial Note 1 ]

FIN

By “Caladrius” of ONA

Source: http://ona352.wordpress.com/2009/09/13/ona-a-briefing/

Editorial Note:

(1) Expressed another way, the real (esoteric) ONA is akin to a acausal viral DNA; a new kind of causal transduction.

As an acausal virus (an acausal – demonic – entity manifest in the causal), the ONA (in its inner essence) is a causal shapeshifter, capable of assuming and using various causal forms, and also not only changes and evolves over causal time, but also replicates and changes itself in and through susceptible (“infected”) individuals.

Part of the recent evolution of the ONA is expressed in the causal form of sinister tribes, which are a new manifestation of genuine dark (and aeonic) sorcery, and which – together with other ONA causal manifestations – take the ONA far beyond the Old Aeon causal-form known as “satanism”, as such a causal-form is and has been understood by the mundanes, and others.

Even More Comments About Myatt and Anton Long

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Anton Long (ONA)

Introductory Note: The following item – taken from an article written by an Australian member of the ONA – presents one person’s very interesting, and insightful, view of David Myatt, aka Anton Long (for it is my view, also, that “Anton Long” is a pseudonym used by Myatt).


I have had the temerity to insert a few of my own comments, to either elucidate some point of interest, or to offer my own opinion when I consider it warranted, given my personal knowledge of either the matter in question, and/or of Myatt himself.

RS
120 yf



The Last Word From One Of THEM (v.1)

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions, I really do appreciate it. I have a lot to ask you, having been reading and thinking about the work published on Lulu and our private correspondence for quite some time. I guess my first question is – have you ever met Anton Long?

Hi Mark, not a problem.. and no. Not in person. Only as an idea.

An Idea?

Sure. I think there are still a lot of people unsure as to why David refuses to be seen as Anton Long despite all the evidence that’s been produced to favour an obvious conclusion.

When I first began my walk with the ONA in 2000, all I initially wanted, was to travel to Shropshire and meet and train with the enigmatic Grandmaster. I even tried to send the ONA a letter asking for admission into the Order. It was returned though, the box must have been closed by then. However, the older I got, and the more involved I became in living the Sinister Way – the more insight I gathered, all kinds of previous preconceived idea I had about Satanism began to fall away. There’s a big difference in a magical path from the outside than there is on the inside. Mine has been charged with a feeling of dynamism and excitement, and so I’m lucky, but it’s not like you can subsist forever on mystical nonsense, if you want to get anywhere you have to have a big dose of realism, and that comes with trying to follow something like the Sinister Path. The insights revealed are not necessarily the one’s you expect. And slowly I began to feel that Anton Long, whom I eventually linked with Myatt, was something/someone other than what it/he appeared, and that AL, was actually created for something. Something deeply profound and something beyond the Mythos being weaved.

You have to remember that Myatt was born in the 1950’s – and men born back then had a completely different outlook on the world than someone born in the 70’s. AL was also born into a life that involved a lot of travel – a lot of realism and seeing the world as it really is. And I think from this, the persona of Long developed. For me, Long is the personification of an “idea”, and I don’t mean the term “idea” lightly, the phrase “External Wraith or Manifestation developed to represent an Outer-formed, Inner-felt Development of a Unique Perennial Pagan Ethos based on a scrutiny of Sacred Geometry from a Way of Living that garners experience directly from many of the forms given great worship as means and guides by Humanity to alter an Ingrained Ethos” is probably better than “idea”. Even his name, “Along” is synchronous with the underlying aims of the ONA, which are so often misunderstood, generally by a) people who have never devoted themselves to actually living its Tradition for themselves and remain on the outside theorizing from what is written down and disseminated; moreover who expect and believe in some predetermined outcome or objective result from such a way of Living which I assure you is never the case and that each Initiate learns differently even though they utilize the same base core system and b) believe that the concept of the ONA has only one layer and is related “as is” via its manuscripts and own admissions – and which, is most definitely not the case: with a perception in tow that the ONA is represented “as is” via its manuscripts: the ONA can only appear as a contradiction of extreme complexity. The secret to perceiving the ONA lies in living and experiencing the practical means and methods relayed for oneself, the alchemy of which results in drastic alchemical magical and philosophical changes, unique to each Initiate; for only then is the necessary internal groundwork laid to understand the extreme simplicity of the ONA.

For me, Long is a species of free-floating consciousness with great power to create significant changes; an embodiment of the archetype Satan, yes; partly through his tremendous promethean tenacity to live the way he has and understand so much by himself; and partly because of his emphasis and development of the dis-connected unification of acausal consciousness between all beings; but a consciousness more unrestricted than the box “Satan”; a unique embodiment of personality that I have not seen in my thirty years of living in any other human being. Some people sometimes show me some aspects of that consciousness: but AL is the first and only man I’ve encountered whose essence has deeply affected who I am and what I try to do with my life. Aside of course, from the character of Satan.

Why do you think Long is Myatt, like evidence-wise?

Well, assuming, loosely, that Myatt does not have his material written out by someone else before he releases it, Myatt and Long both use long strings of commas to break up sentences in a very similar way, as does ‘Julie Wright’.

[Comment by RS: Personally, I can't see much, if any comparison, between the style of the voluminous writings of Myatt/Long, and the few articles, about Myatt, written by Ms Wright. One might also refer to her psuedononymous article, "A Personal Encounter With DWM".]

My experience has taught me that people, artists especially, are very particular about language when they write. Due to the audio inflection they hear in their head, they write a certain way, to express how they hear conversation, where pauses, when/how emotion, and so on play out in a conversation and in how people interact with one another; also in what details are captured and which are omitted, in the breadth of vocabulary, for example. All these are particulars that can’t help but emanate the consistent underlying structure of how language is understood and perceived in its conveyance by the writer. Their Iambic Pentameter is the same too.

Myatt writes so much that to consistently maintain any conscious focus to disrupt that style of writing would be too much of a strain to keep up – moreover, Myatt is probably not aware of, or recognizes the impossibility of cleaning up, the “linguistic” trail he leaves behind. The word ‘fastly’ rather than quickly is idiosyncratic, as is the consistent “misspelling” of ‘past’ with ‘passed’, the omission by both AL and DM of ornate description, as though the style of prose adopted for the Deofel Quintet coloured everything written since… it’s my opinion that Myatt wants people to know he is AL. And damn right, AL is the best thing to happen to Satanism in the last four decades.

What the hell is Iambic Meter?

So far as I understand it, it’s a fancy way of indicating the measure of both the mathematical and poetic rhythm or spacing in verse and the overall measure of meter to which they flow. Eminem and Dr. Seuss are two great examples for this. When reading Dr. Seuss, for instance, there is an impulse to insert an extra syllable in some lines to give more order and poise to the prose, which often seems stilted because it is missing a syllable in a place that interrupts the smooth rhythm of the prose. On the other hand, Eminem is a wordsmith whose masterful use of rhythm is a powerful example of correct Iambic (Penta) Meter or perfectly measured verse. As is the Haiku poem, which uses five syllables, then seven syllables, then five again, a style favoured in Japan.

Going back, what do you mean Anton Long was created for something?

I mean that AL is a deliberate magickal creation. There are powers and actions granted via a channel emanating a certain personality that AL can perform, but which David Myatt, cannot. Likewise, actions and stances that ONA, can perform and hold: as a separate entity: which David Myatt cannot. All because of the different codes of conduct each possess, or more accurately that he has given them the power to possess.

THEM have come along and penned Liber Dabih at an extremely fortuitous time, because over the years, each of Myatt’s lived forms have been treated superficially, seen simplistically as snapshots which described Myatt, and each form with its own attached tirade of ignorant outside observation and commentary. And one of Myatt’s most infamous actions was a conversion to the Islaamic faith much to the chagrin and disgust of many pro-National Socialist circles: who, never really understood why Myatt was seen to be joining them in the first place, at all. At this time, like all his other forms, Myatt’s Islaamic learning can now be placed within a fair context. I think Myatt is genuine about using Islaam to attack the Magian, it is a role that makes a lot of sense from the perspective put forth by both AL and DM about championing Heresy.

Yet Myatt’s recent tally of shape-shifting confessions have brought him to a place where his over-arching concern is for the level of suffering needlessly endured by the promulgation of forms, illusions and divisions that man-made abstractions have the power to do, and a deep sadness that humanity has learnt or is in danger of learning, nothing from its past five thousand years; and thus that all forms such as National Socialism, Militant Coups, Islamic Fundamentalism, etc, should no longer play a part; but, he is caught irrevocably in-between Knowledge and Time.

While he Knows/Lives with these profound integrated discoveries of suffering and the Numinous Way intimately as David Myatt: the struggle to do nothing and the struggle to do something clearly rages within. As Myatt, he can do nothing to try and change the flow and precession of suffering – for Myatt is Above Time: but as the ONA, as Long, he can actively continue to struggle against the odds of the Times (Long is the means by which David can manifest In/Against Time) we live in by using a variety of forms, the complete ONA being one of these, to infuse the consciousness, the deep learning of David Myatt, into the world through the Seven-Fold Sinister Way. Thus not just the results of his learning, but also the way in which he set about teaching himself.

Obviously, the idea that Myatt has split personalities for this theory is appealing, but it would be incorrect. Myatt’s personalities are not split: and from his point of view, and mine, there is no differentiation between the two men and the plethora of other manifestations which each serve different purposes for Myatt: which emanate from one consciousness; but which consciousness is Acausal not Causal. Thus Myatt feels himself, rightly, a part of you, a part of me, a part of something greater, and is moved to express it, i.e. the Numinous.

[ Comment by RS: My view of this matter of Myatt's Numinous Way - and hence of "the question of suffering" - is that there is no Myattian "inner, personal struggle". Instead, there is the insight, the wisdom, and the practicality, of a genuine Mage.

This Numinous Way is thus a deliberate creation of Myatt's, albeit one arising from his personal thinking and his personal life-experience. That is, from his esoteric quest, from Initiate to Master of The Dark Arts, and then beyond.

Why a deliberate creation? To further his long term, Aeonic, aims because - as Anton Long makes clear in his autobiographical MS Emanations of a Mage - it will take centuries, if not a thousand years or more, for us as species to evolve into a new, and higher, type of being. Until then, there will be a variety of human types, with many clinging to the old ways of the Old Aeon, and these types will all have to be appealed to, manipulated, changed, evolved, infected with sinister memes - or culled.

There is, therefore, in my view no dichotomy, no personal inner struggle, between Myatt propounding his own Numinous Way, and between either Myatt - as Anton Long - propounding the sinister disruptive strategy of the ONA, or Myatt - as Abdul Aziz Ibn Myatt - propagating radical Islam. It's just a genuine Mage at work, on a variety of levels, and creating and using a variety of causal forms to achieve specific, and sometimes long term, goals.

As Anton Long states, while a Mage, a true Grand Master/Mistress of the darker esoteric Arts, "has perceived the acausal reality behind and beyond all limited causal forms, and hence experienced, understood and felt the essence from which such things as The Numinous Way arise, there is still an inner imperative to produce, to affect, to cause, to bring-into-being, Change, despite such suffering as may be caused: because that imperative and such Change are not only part of causal life but one essence of a true Mage. And it is a Mage who knows what is necessary, on all levels (exoteric and esoteric), to bring such Change into causal being... Thus is a true Mage an enigma to those lacking empathy and esoteric insight, and thus may a true Mage appear, to those un-evolved ones still imbued with the forms of the Old Aeon, as a contradiction, onto whom they project some -ism or some category in a vain attempt at understanding..." ]

So, okay, do you want to meet Anton Long?

No… I don’t think that it is necessary to do that anymore. Long is a part of my consciousness, a fellow wanderer who feels that awful sadness I have felt with the world and whose own life via the vehicle of the ONA has influenced me profoundly. People who have that feeling have nothing to say to each other – they’re already connected.

What is your impression of David Myatt?

My impression? I perceive a gentle man and a gentleman, doing what he can to make the world a better place. But we’re at a point in time where you have to literally smash someone over the head with a shovel to change their ways. I also believe that Myatt’s age is having an influence on his recent mindset – and that ONA’s forms are currently exhibiting a potent mixture of wisdom and fatalism – possibly due to an acute awareness on his part of his approaching mortality and the amount of time he has left to complete his Wyrd or achieve what he set out to do.

[ Comment by RS: I would say - a mixture of wisdom and practicality, due to an awareness of what is necessary. His age is irrelevant, except that he has over four decades of practical exoteric and esoteric experience of the sinister. Also irrelevant is any "awareness of approaching mortality" - for such causal mortality has no meaning for someone, such as a genuine Mage/GrandMistress, who know both the causal and the acausal for what they are, and who are aware of what awaits in the causal for those who have ventured far enough along our sinister causal path.

Certainly, he is the archetypal English gentleman - well-mannered, polite, reserved in public, and honourable. But as for him now being "gentle", well, according to my info his last serious fight was only a couple of years ago, a fair fight with a much younger man over a woman, and in which successful fight he suffered some broken ribs, although as the cliché goes, "you should have seen the other bloke..."

Notice that I said "as for him now being gentle..." For he has a long history of violence, going back to his youth; has served two terms of imprisonment for violence, and been arrested nearly a dozen times for violent offences, which included conspiracy to murder. he was also once held on remand in Armley prison because the Police believed he might threaten or intimidate witnesses for the prosecution.]

Would you say his involvement in extremist Islaam is making the world a better place?

I don’t believe Myatt actually converted to Islaam. He may have demonically lived the role, but the same underlying messages in his NS writings are the same underpinnings in his Islaamic stuff. It’s just different wrapping paper. Despite all the outer appearances put forth, I don’t believe his heart is in it and as I said to someone else, I think Myatt’s dream of space colonization underpins all of the forms he has taken on, that ONA is his grounding principle, and that all of his efforts revolve around his faith in the Order to deliver.

I have to ask, is THEM really an ONA Nexion?

The short answer is yes.

From my point of view based on ONA’s definition on what a nexion is and what I discern ONA are – how THEM carries on and extends the qualities relating to those definitions: qualifies THEM to present itself as a genuine nexion of the ONA. And that is not to say that my understanding of a nexion is the only, or the right, one.

Before many others, we understood Myatt and the underlying nature of his work beneath the sensationalism of his involvement in this or that form – we were not in thrall to the forms he took, and did not react emotively as he changed through them. We have remained cold and detached watching Myatt work. We understood what he is doing and subsequently could work out what he was doing. We empathize deeply with that work and have vowed to further it (We each took the Initiation Oath in Naos as a serious element of our devotion to the Sinister Quest and the ONA). But we should not be misunderstood as being the same as ONA, because we are not, we are an extension Offspring.

Insofar as THEM understands the ONA and the reasons relating to the propagation of it as a whole and a large number of its parts, re: Dark Gods, Star Game, Culling etc, THEM do claim to represent the ONA from Australia, and not, necessarily, as a Satanic group.

We have the experience and understanding to teach aspects and the spirit of the Seven-Fold Way – Whether or not this connexion is “officially” recognized by the ONA is irrelevant: all the important work is performed in the shadows and with hints anyway….

…. The genius behind ONA is or must be nearing his 60th birthday; and noticeably his attitude has changed as his insight has grown: esp as regards the Numinous Way. And of this attitude, I am in agreement: having come to many similar conclusions myself. The nature of the challenge imposed by the Times for Satanism has certainly changed as has the solution to meet that challenge. Where some see an overt stand as ultimately required in a militant force, coup or army as the right way to conduct Satanic affairs, we do not necessarily agree.

[ Comment by RS: Myatt has always supported the use of violent force; and he still does, as is quite clear from his recent Jihadist diatribes and his continuing support for Al Qaida and the Taliban, a support quite evident in articles of his such as "The Aims of Al Qaida" and "In Reply to Sheikh Salman bin Fahd al-Oadah".

It is also quite clear from Anton Long's recent ONA writings (dated 120 Year of Fayen), particularly those about "sinister tribes". In his most recent one, he writes "we will use whatever means we can and whatever means we desire and which are necessary to establish our feral tribes..." (quoted from "Whose Gonna Run This Town Tonight?" which incidentally is the title of a song by Jay-Z and Rihanna.)

Myatt's sinister strategy regarding force is, in my view, four fold. First, there's the ONA, particularly using such causal forms as sinister, feral, urban tribes to disrupt The System from within. Second, there's practical Jihad by radical Muslims against what he and others have called "the New World Order". Third, there's training some sinister individuals to go out into the word as perform such practical roles as "assassins". Fourth, there's the mythos of Vindex, to try and inspire someone to take up arms against the capitalist New World Order, whether in Europe, America, or elsewhere in the world.

Myatt also has said, very recently, that our "Dark Imperium" can only be created by the downfall, the destruction of the Old Order, and this can only be done by force. ]

Our understanding is from experience, that change, is very slow and takes a long time: and, that to implement changes, requires patience, wisdom, and patience. Every day we diffuse our Satanic insights into the people in the world around us: every few days, THEM is changing the perspective of someone to enable them to see what we see. Slowly, but surely, we are making gradual, imperceptible, invisible changes via our conduct, via our personalities, via our understanding of magic and of change; in the world: that are being rooted in the consciousness as living thriving ideas and practices. Changing them from the inside permanently not tacking on a badge or uniform temporarily on the outer. THEM are performing the long arduous and often unrewarding implementation of genuine alchemical black magick in the tradition of the ONA with a view to creating a tradition in Australia that gives this country a truly Sinister History. Others will come, and go – but we will persevere against all odds through the next three decades, quietly completing our experiment. Mark my Words.

Having, for instance, shared many of the same intense quiet moments with Nature as Myatt, and been an avid proponent of the ONA for almost a decade, I believe I recognize and thus empathise deeply with what he is doing. But, with such an enormous volume of work available presented from so many stages of his life, it is easy to come in to it at any stage and think one is reading Myatt’s most recent insights.

The pressing underlying crux of David Myatt is a tightrope between extremes, a balanced fulcrum that has its own self-righting equilibrium between sharing the awesome wisdom of the Numinous Way that people might stop, listen, grow, and mature from being inspired by the peaceful acausal symbiosis achieved from exhausting the (ultimately illusory) possibilities of so many forms that promise to guide a person; and having taken them each to their conclusion found still, something lacking. And the explosive destructive elements of Myatt’s nature.

Remember, that the people most likely to make a change in the world, those with a pathological dislike or even hatred for the Status Quo such as those on the fringe of the neat slots that society tries to put people in, and those who have been deeply wronged by the current or prevailing powers or ethos, that is to say, the same people who will gravitate toward unorthodox measures and paths to fight, combat, and dream of using to conquer the Injustice, the Absurdity, the Arrogance of the Century and its Keepers -having the qualities of militancy, aggression, readiness for war, struggle to understand, to know for themselves, to right wrongs, to crusade for mankind or even oneself that one finds in all manner of defiant beings, are not rare, moreover they are the type of beings who gravitate toward something just like, the ONA. And perhaps they will even call themselves a Satanist.

And yet, while the flutes of peace wax lyrically, the talk and suggestion of War as an answer from someone in a highly influential position draws us (and parts of humanity listening to Myatt) closer, perhaps unintentionally on his part, toward the type of typical Religious Armageddon that will inevitably repeat the centuries of bloodshed that seem so lamented by Myatt: viz. in a struggle that will involve real violence, real bombs, real guns, real deaths, in order to enact the ideal of the “Numinous Way”.

[ Comment by RS: "Lamented by Myatt" only in his particular intentional role as mystic philosopher of the Numinous Way. More correctly, possibly, we should say "lamentfully understood" (as Myatt writes) - "by those who currently and in the future possess a certain personal character and that developed empathy that will be evident in the evolved human being of the future, when the Old Order has been destroyed and we have ventured to seed ourselves among the star-systems of our Galaxy and thus have established many new cultures most of which are diverse from each other and which express the ethos of their own specific clan or tribal way of life..."

While I have always been able to see the innate hypocrisy built into language that unfortunately is a part of Any form, any single idea put down which spawns an immediate shadow, I have to ask as one of THEM, as someone with my own distinct identity and understanding of the forces in play by many people: is how this is going, the right way? Is this the only way? Must people be shocked into awakening? Is WAR the only way to cause Change? And do I support this?* I cannot help but see a clever engine of National Socialism prevalent in what I see being laid out by Myatt: A soft sweet tune that preludes the beating of war drums and the annihilation of flesh.

The source of the article by one of THEM is at:

http://templeofthem.wordpress.co


The Sinister Shapeshifting ONA

“  The Sinister Way of the ONA never stays the same for long, for it’s fountainhead of Sinister Insights: “Anton Long” never stays in one place for long either. On his personal journey – personal victory to surmount himself – of Self Enlightenment the man we know sometimes as Anton Long has entered into many various roles, religions, and ways of life. From Taoist to Buddhism, from Christian monk to Muslim, from street thug to Nazi to Numinous Empath. Thus the ONA from its causal beginnings has always been imbued with an ethos of amorphous fluidity. It gradually grows and changes like a living organism metabolizing and discarding waste. Discarding old tried, tested, useless theories; for new insights and dialectics, to get it to its established destination.

Along its way as it progresses forward, it inspires and influence people, and whole genres of Stagnant Satanism. Anyone who has an intimate knowledge of the religious phenomenon of Satanism, cannot deny the impact and influence the Order of Nine Angles has had; to which no credit is given. The ONA was the first to coin and use the term: Traditional Satanism; which has now unfortunately been hijacked for quite some time by the stagnant freestyle Theistic Satanist.

It was the first to make the central focus of its Initiates their own personal illumination and progression according to that Nietzschean ethos; instead of making some High Priest, Temple or Church the focus. It was and still is the first to make the Progression of Man from and earth bound Homo Sapiens to a Stellar Homo Galactica. It was and still is the first to make the Progression of Human Civilization towards it’s highest conceivable potential its second aim. From its very beginning the aims of the ONA has always been a Faustian Vision. If there was one word which aptly captures the fundamental essence, ethos, quintessence, esprit, of the Order of Nine Angles it would indeed be: Progressive.

Unlike the many generic genres of Stagnant Satanism which remains dogmatically the same in their orthodoxy over many decades; the Order of Nine Angles has remained true to its essential Progressive Nature. The ONA of the 60’s was nothing like the ONA of the 70’s. The ONA of a past 20th century is nothing like what it has evolved into and become in this 21st Century. And like a living acausal entity, it will continue to evolve and gradually Progress over causal time reaching for it collective dreams and visions in the great distance – never at peace with what it is – always reaching and struggling forward and upward. “  Chloe, WSA 352

Source: http://onanxs.wordpress.com/category/spoils-of-victory/

Cool Quote of The Week About Myatt

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People still think of, talk about, and follow David Myatt… even if he was a Nazi Thug… even if he was a Muslim… Even if he denies being a Satanist publically. There are still thousands that know Myatt, thousands that look up to him, in whose minds he is a fixture.

Who talks about Michael Aquino of the TOS these days? Who even knows what he spoke of or taught? How many people in my generation (15-25) even know who or what he is? How many care?

As the Monkee Armada advised… – “Every Monkee Falls. Watch Out For the Branches.” Aquino fell and hit every branch on his way down into nothingness.

LaVey is gone… he’s nothing but a trinket the Gilmore Goons of the CoS sells now. Aquino is nobody today… but people still fear Myatt. It’s been some 30-40 years, and David Myatt still reigns the Sinister.


Kayla 352

The Perils and Pleasures of Being David Myatt

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A recent post about Myatt by Kayla and Chloe, of WSA352, and two recent posts by Pointy Hat, got me thinking about the Myatt mythos, in both its positive (for Myatt) and its negative (for Myatt) aspects. For us – for those outside, who may use it, add to it, and disseminate it for our own ends and for that of our ONA nexions – it is basically all positive; all adding to our kudos; all attracting people to us; all aiding our own Presencing of The Dark.

But for The Mad Mage himself it might just be different. For one thing, he has some sicko – The Myatt Obsessed Anonymous Coward – stalking him, spreading malicious rumors and sicko gossip all over the Internet. Then he has the loony White racists with their rants that he’s a trace traitor, and a raghead who deserves a bullet. Then there’s the conspiracy nuts with their tales of him being a covert MI5 agent. Let’s also not forget his Zionist enemies who take every opportunity to demean him in the Media, to discredit him, who cry aloud that his conversion to Islam was just a ploy; who take every opportunity to repeat the allegation that he’s a Satanist; and who use their influence to try and get him arrested (as they did in 1998) or at the very least questioned by the Police (as they did in the 1980’s, and again in 2000 CE). Also, we might make mention of the socalled “moderate Muslims” – aligned with Western governments and thus probably lickspittles of those governments – who, no doubt following their Zionists masters, question his commitment to Islam and who rant on about him being a preacher of hate and an “Islamofascist”.

On the positive side, there’s some glamorization, and some appreciation – by the likes of us, and on the Internet – of his life and works; of his creative genius, manifest to us in the methodology and mythos of The Order of Nine Angles; in his ethical National Socialism of Reichsfolk; in his Numinous Way; in his mythos of Vindex; in his poetry and Greek translations; and – in my view – in his Islamist writings where he preaches Jihad and lambaste the Magian in their guise as the Zionist-Crusader alliance and its new Amerikan Empire.

Would we change places with him? Would we be happy spending every day knowing that we might at any moment get arrested and put in jail for a long time? Would we be happy spending every day knowing that some racist nut might take it into his head to gun us down for “our betrayal” ? Would we be happy spending every day knowing that some sicko has posted more malicious rumours and allegations about us on the Internet? Would we be happy knowing that we might wake up to find our photograph in the newspaper, or be doorstepped by some television crew? Would we be happy to find ourselves mentioned – in a negative way of course – in some new book by some hack journalist? Would we be happy to know that some covert government agency is bugging our home, listening to our telephone conversations, reading our e-mail, and often following us around? Would we be happy to know that some “anti-terrorist” conference somewhere is mentioning us, and that, somewhere, some Zionists or some Whitey journalists are plotting another disinformation campaign against us?

Or would we prefer our own, current, and almost always anonymous and safe existence?

Dark Logos
August, 120 Year of Fayen

The Life, Times, and Works, of David Myatt

In a recent post, Kayla and Chloe, of the ONA group WSA352, made some excellent points about the Myatt-Obsessed Anonymous Coward, the subject of several posts here on this blog, which Myatt-Obsessed Anonymous Coward has, for several years, been flooding message boards, forums and Internet blogs with hundreds of rants about David Myatt and Anton Long.

WSA352 get to the heart of the matter, stating in their post that:

1) almost everything that the majority of people believe, think or know or assume about Myatt himself is based on what they have read on the Internet;

2) the majority of this information about Myatt available on the Internet is posted by people who have never met him; therefore, this information is suspect;

3) the only thing this crazy lunatic is doing is working for Myatt; creating more interest in The Mad Mage;

4) ” Myatt is a trickster, and that he does have people who go around Glamourizing him or spreading mythical propaganda about him….. I know, because I do this very same thing from time to time.”

What, therefore, do we know about Myatt himself? What are the proven facts of his life, referenced by credible, non-partisan, sources?

The proven facts are as follows.



The Life, Times, and Works, of David Myatt

Myatt grew up in East Africa (where his father worked as a civil servant for the British government) and later in the Far East, where he studied the Martial Arts. (See Footnote 1) He moved to England in 1967 to complete his schooling, and began a degree in Physics but did not complete it, leaving his studies to focus on his political activism. (2) He lives in the Midlands (3) and has been married three times.

Political scientist Professor George Michael has written that Myatt is an “intriguing theorist,” with an IQ of 187, who has embarked over the years on a series of “Faustian quests.” (4) He studied Taoism and spent time in a Buddhist and later a Christian monastery (5).

Myatt joined Colin Jordan’s British Movement, a neo-Nazi group, in 1968, where he sometimes acted as Jordan’s bodyguard at meetings and rallies. (6) From the 1970s until the 1990s, Myatt remained involved with paramilitary and neo-Nazi organizations such as Column 88 and Combat 18, (7) (8) and was imprisoned twice for violent offences in connection with his political activism. (9)

Myatt was the founder and first leader of the National Socialist Movement (10) of which David Copeland was a member. He also co-founded, with Eddy Morrison, the neo-Nazi organization the NDFM (National Democratic Freedom Movement) which was active in Leeds, England, in the early 1970s, (11) and also founded the neo-Nazi Reichsfolk group. (12).

Myatt took over the leadership of Combat 18 in 1997, when Charlie Sargent, the previous leader, was arrested for murder. (13) (14)

Influence on David Copeland

In November 1997, Myatt posted an allegedly racist and allegedly anti-Jewish pamphlet he had written called Practical Guide to Aryan Revolution on a website run out of British Columbia, Canada, by Bernard Klatt. The pamphlet included chapter titles such as “Assassination,” “Terror Bombing,” and “Racial War.” (15) According to Michael Whine of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, “the contents provided a detailed step-by-step guide for terrorist insurrection with advice on assassination targets, rationale for bombing and sabotage campaigns, and rules of engagement.” (16)

In February 1998, Police Officers from Scotland Yard raided Myatt’s home in Worcestershire and removed his computers and files. He was arrested on suspicion of incitement to racial hatred, and conspiracy to murder, but the case was dropped after a three year long investigation because the evidence supplied by the Canadian authorities was not enough to secure a conviction. (17)

It was this pamphlet that, in 1999, allegedly influenced David Copeland, the London nailbomber – also a member of Myatt’s National Socialist Movement – who planted homemade bombs in Brixton, Brick Lane, and inside the Admiral Duncan pub on Old Compton Street in London, frequented by the black, Asian, and gay communities respectively. Friends John Light, Nick Moore, and Andrea Dykes and her unborn child died in the Admiral Duncan pub. Copeland told police he had been trying to spark a “racial war.” (18)

According to the BBC’s Panorama, in 1998 when Myatt was leader of the NSM, he called for “the creation of racial terror with bombs.” (19)


Conversion to Islam
Myatt converted to Islam in 1998 (20) (21) (22) (23) (24), having been impressed by the militancy of Islamist groups, and believing that he shared common enemies with Islam, namely “the capitalist-consumer West and international finance.” (25) (26)
Following his conversion to Islam, he began writing about Islam, produced hundreds of articles, many of which advocate Islamic martyrdom operations, express support for Osama bin Laden, and the Taliban, and, in line with Al Qaida’s radical Islamist stance, support the killing of non-combatants. One of Myatt’s articles justifying suicide attacks was, for several years, on the Izz al-Din al-Qassam (the military wing) section of the Hamas website. (27)

Myatt was mentioned at a NATO conference on terrorism in 2005, and again at another such conference a year later (28) (29) where it was claimed he had incited and encouraged violent Jihad, and “suicide attacks”.

According to a report (30) in The Times newspaper, headlined Muslim Extremists in Britain, Myatt stated that:

“The pure authentic Islam of the revival, which recognises practical jihad as a duty, is the only force that is capable of fighting and destroying the dishonour, the arrogance, the materialism of the West … For the West, nothing is sacred, except perhaps Zionists, Zionism, the hoax of the so-called Holocaust, and the idols which the West and its lackeys worship, or pretend to worship, such as democracy… Jihad is our duty. If nationalists, or some of them, desire to aid us, to help us, they can do the right thing, the honourable thing, and convert, revert, to Islam — accepting the superiority of Islam over and above each and every way of the West.”

Greek Translations, Poetry, and The Numinous Way

Myatt has translated works by Sappho, Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Homer (31) (32) (33). He has also written several small volumes of poetry (34).

Myatt has also developed a mystical, pagan, philosophy which he called The Numinous Way (35) (36).

References:

(1) Michael, George. (2006) The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right. University Press of Kansas, p. 142.

(2) (a) Goodrick-Clarke, Nicholas. Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism, and the Politics of Identity. New York University Press, 2002; (b) Ryan, Nick. Homeland: Into A World of Hate. Mainstream Publishing Company Ltd., 2002

(3) Sunday Mercury newspaper (Birmingham, England), 9 July 2000

(4) Michael, George. (2006) The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right. University Press of Kansas, p. 142

(5) Michael, George. (2006) The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right. University Press of Kansas, p. 143

(6) Goodrick-Clarke, Nicholas. “Hitler’s Priestess: Savitri Devi, the Hindu-Aryan Myth and Neo-Nazism”, NYU Press, 2000, p.215

(7) Goodrick-Clark, N. (2001) pp.215-217 Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity.

(8) Lowles, N. (2001) White Riot: The Violent Story of Combat 18. Milo Books, England

(9) Michael, George. (2006) The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right. University Press of Kansas, p. 142

(10) Goodrick-Clark, N. (2001) p.50 Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity

(11) Goodrick-Clark, N. (2001) p.217 Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity

(12) Kaplan, Jeffrey. Encyclopedia of White Power: A Sourcebook on the Radical Racist Right, Rowman & Littlefield Pub Inc., 2000, pp. 216ff; pp. 512ff

See also:

Jeffrey Kaplan (University of Helsinki) in Krista Vogelberg, Raili Pöldsaar. Negotiating Spaces on the Common Ground: Selected Papers of the 3rd and 4th International Tartu Conferences on North-American Studies. Tartu University Press, 2000

Jeffrey Kaplan, Religiosity and the Radical Right: Toward the Creation of a New Ethnic Identity, in Jeffrey Kaplan and Tore Bjorgo, eds., Nation and Race: The Developing Euro-American Racist Subculture (Northeastern University Press, 1998)

(13) Michael, George. (2006) The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right. University Press of Kansas, p. 142

(14) Lowles, N. (2001) White Riot: The Violent Story of Combat 18. Milo Books, England

(15) Vacca, John R. Computer Forensics: Computer Crime Scene Investigation, Charles River Media, 2005, p.420

(16) Whine, Michael. “Cyberspace: A New Medium for Communication, Command and Control by Extremists”, 1999. International Institute for Counter-Terrorism, Israel.

(17) Vacca, John R. “Computer Forensics: Computer Crime Scene Investigation”, Charles River Media, 2005, p.420

(18) (a) Program Transcript: The Nailbomber, BBC Panorama, June 30, 2000. (b) Searchlight magazine, July 2000.

(19) The Nailbomber, BBC Panorama, June 30, 2000.

(20) Steyn, Mark (2006). American Alone, Regnery Publishing, USA, p.92.

(21) Raphael Israeli. (2008) The Islamic Challenge in Europe. Transaction Publishers. pp 44-45.

(22) Greven, Thomas (ed) (2006) Globalisierter Rechtsextremismus? Rechtsextremismus in der Ära der Globalisierung VS Verlag.

(23) Amis, Martin: The Second Plane. Random House, 2009, p.156

(24) Miller, Rory (2007). British Anti-Zionism Then and Now. Covenant, Volume 1, Issue 2 (April 2007 / Iyar 5767), Herzliya, Israel.

(25) Michael, George. (2006) The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right. University Press of Kansas, p. 144.

(26) ibn Myatt, Abdul-Aziz. Autobiographical Notes, Revised Yaumul Ahad 3 Jumaada al-Awal 1428

(27) Durham, Martin. White Rage: The Extreme Right and American Politics. Routledge, 2007, p.113

(28) Karmon, Ely. Arenas for Radical and Anti-Globalization Groups Activity, NATO Workshop On Terrorism and Communications, Slovakia, April 2005

(29) Proceedings of the NATO Advanced Research Workshop on Hypermedia Seduction for Terrorist Recruiting, Eilat, Israel, 17-21 September 2006

(30) The Times, April 24, 2006

(31) J. Michael Walton: Found in Translation: Greek Drama in English, Cambridge University Press, 2006, pp.206, 221, 227

(32) Gary Daher Canedo: Safo y Catulo: poesía amorosa de la antigüedad, Universidad Nur, 2005.

(33) Smith, S. Epic Logos: On First Looking into Several Homers. 2004. Paper presented as part of an academic project supported by the Spanish Ministry of Science and Technlogy (BFF 2002-02842), the Communidad Autónoma of La Rioja (ANGI-2002/05) and the University of La Rioja, Logroño, Spain (API-02-35).

(34) Michael, George. (2006) The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right. University Press of Kansas.

(35) Michael, George. (2006) The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right. University Press of Kansas.

(36) Empathy, Compassion, and Honour: The Numinous Way of Life. The Numinous Way Foundation, 2009.


Everything else we assume we know about Myatt, or may have heard or read about him – other than the documented facts, above – may therefore be taken as unproven; as hearsay; or as rumor; or as speculation; or as possible disinformation.

This includes whether or not Myatt founded, or was and is a member of, The Order of Nine Angles. Whether or not Anton Long (of ONA fame) is or is not one of Myatt’s pseudonyms; whether or not Myatt has abandoned Islam in favor of his own mystical Numinous Way philosophy; and whether or not Myatt sincerely converted to Islam or was just using radical Islam to further his claimed subversive agenda.

Myatt himself has always, and consistently, (a) denied being involved with the ONA and (b) denied using the pseudonym Anton Long, stating that no one has ever produced any evidence to prove otherwise. He has also, according to a statement issued by him on  16 Shaban 1430 (August 7, 2009), not recently, or ever, abandoned Islam in favor of either The Numinous Way, or of anything else. That is, he is now, and has been since his conversion, a Muslim. Myatt also states that only three individuals – out of the thousands, or tens of thousands, who must have read rumors of his abandonment of Islam on the Internet – bothered to contact him to ask for “his side of the story”.

PointyHat
120 Year of Fayen


Rantings Of A Deluded Anonymous Coward

For some years, an Anonymous Coward has been filling message boards, forums and Internet blogs with hundreds of rants about David Myatt and Anton Long.

Here is a screenshot of one such typical rant which makes the usual malicious accusations against the usual suspects:

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However, this obviously Myatt obsessed Anonymous Coward has been challenged on numerous occasions, and revealed for what he is: the cowardly anonymous hate-filled purveyor of malicious allegations who never ever provides any evidence for such malicious allegations.


Part The First:

Here are just some of the proven and public failures of this Myatt-hating Anonymous Coward.

1) The Anonymous Coward was asked the following relevant and important question, considering his accusations against Myatt:

” Do you or do you not believe that Myatt is or was a covert operative (an agent provocateur) for MI5, as a great deal of circumstantial evidence seems to indicate? “

He did not answer, except to say that it was an “irrational question”.

When asked why this perfectly reasonable question – asked on forums dealing with the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks – was “irrational”, he did not reply.

2) The Anonymous Coward was asked to provide a link for the so-called “David Myatt Hate-site” which he repeatedly mentioned, repeatedly made claims about, and which he mentioned in the title of many of posts and which he claimed somehow “proved” a link between Myatt/Long and a woman who was physically attacked by some cowardly thugs.

The Anonymous Coward never gave a link to this alleged site. Which leads us to suspect it never existed except in his mind.

3) The Anonymous Coward was asked post evidence for his claim that Anton Long (whoever he is) posted threatening messages on some message forums.

He did not answer.

When it was pointed out to him that anyone could join a forum using someone else’s name, and post threatening messages using that name, he remained silent.

When it was pointed out to him that his much vaunted “screenshots” – which purported to show a user called Anton Long on some forum or other – only showed that some anonymous person fraudulently used the name Anton Long, he remained silent.

When it was pointed out to him that the real Anton Long had never, ever, made any posts on any forum or any message board or on Usenet, he remained silent.

Part The Second:

Here are just some of the claims the Anonymous Coward has made, which have all been disproved.

1) The Anonymous Coward made the ludicrous claim that links posted by other people, who replied to him asking for evidence of his claims, should not be used because people who used them were hacked or had personal data stolen.

When asked to provide evidence for such hacking by such sites – logs from AV software, say; or details of the exploit; or confirmation from someone else – he never provided any.

The Anonymous Coward additionally made the ludicrous claim that the so-called ‘ David Myatt ‘ hate-crime site is infested with malware, even though he gave no link for this alleged site (see (2) above) and even though he provided no details of this alleged malware and gave no evidence to support his allegations. When asked to provide a link, when asked for details of this alleged malware, and for evidence, he did not reply.

2) The Anonymous Coward claimed that the NSM used a Reading PO Box.

When it was pointed out to him that the NSM Box was a London BM box run by Steve S, he made no reply.

3) The Anonymous Coward claimed that the ONA used a Reading PO Box.

When it was pointed out to him that the ONA never had a Reading address, he made no reply.

4) The Anonymous Coward claimed that no one could have “a purely academic interest in the Occult”.

When the absurdity of this claim was pointed out to him – together with the names of several well-known individuals who did have
“a purely academic interest in the Occult”, he made no reply.

5) The Anonymous Coward fatuously claimed that no one could have found an Internet forum message about some attack only 24 hours after it was posted, and claimed that this meant that someone having knowledge of the attack must have been involved with it.

When it was pointed out to him that Google has a 24 hour search facility which enables people to find messages posted in the past 24 hours, he made no reply.

6) The Anonymous Coward claimed that Copeland was David Myatt’s “colleague”, but gave no evidence for this claim.

When it was pointed out to him that both S012 and Scotland Yard’s Anti-Terrorism branch has conducted a full investigation, and interviewed Myatt on numerous occasions, and that they could not find any evidence whatsoever linking Myatt with Copeland, the Anonymous Coward did not reply.

7) The Anonymous Coward claimed to be very concerned about links between Myatt, Long and a physical assault on a disabled woman, claiming that Myatt and Long were somehow linked to this attack.

When asked if he had reported his concerns to the Police, he did not reply.

He was informed that if was so concerned about the matter, then he should report it to the Police. When asked, later, why he has not reported it to the Police, he did not answer.

It was later stated that the conclusion to be drawn about his failure here to report the matter to the Police, was that he was, anonymously, just making malicious accusations on the Internet because he was a stalker with an irrational hatred of and obsession with Myatt. The Anonymous Coward made no reply.

7) The Anonymous Coward claimed that Myatt “had announced to the world that he was converting to the muslim faith.”

When it was pointed out to him that Myatt made no such claim, public or private, and indeed kept quiet about his conversion for over two years, the Anonymous Coward made no reply.

(8) The Anonymous Coward claimed that Anton Long had said that “spastics’ should be drowned at birth”. When asked to provide a link, or evidence, for Anton Long stating this, the Anonymous Coward did not reply.

When it was pointed out to him that such a statement, as he attributed to Anton Long, contradicted Anton Long’s and the ONA’s philosophy and writings, as evidenced in their published works and as stated by various academics who had studied such works, the Anonymous Coward made no reply.

Part The Third:

1) The Anonymous Coward never gives any evidence for the malicious allegations he makes.

When asked to provide some evidence, he resorts to argumentum ad hominem, and either changes the subject, or proceeds to ask irrelevant questions in order to try and disguise his failure to provide any such evidence.

2) When challenged about anything by actual evidence proving his claims and statements to be false, the Anonymous Coward drops the subject, and moves on to make some new allegations.

3) When all else fails, he claims that anyone who challenges him, or his malicious allegations, must be “mentally ill” and/or must be his arch-enemy, David Myatt in disguise.

4) Given his trouncing on message boards and forums, the Anonymous Coward has taken to setting up at least a dozen Internet blogs where he continues to post his malicious allegations about Myatt.

We are thus led to inevitable conclusion that the Anonymous Coward is a serial troublemaker who makes malicious accusations on the Internet because he is a stalker with an irrational hatred of, and obsession with, Myatt.

We are also led to conclude that he hopes that by using The Big Lie Technique – repeating his allegations again and again and again, year after year – that someone, somewhere, sometime, will believe him, and this hope feeds his delusion.

We are also led to conclude that he is somewhat mentally unbalanced and paranoid, and sees David Myatt, and Anton Long, everywhere.

We are further led to conclude that his plethora of ranting malicious Internet posts about Myatt – numbering in the hundreds over several years – have served to increase interest in both Myatt and all his works, and in the Order of Nine Angles, leading to many people to discover and appreciate Myatt’s mystical philosophy of Numinous Way, and leading many others to be inspired by, or become involved with, the ONA itself. So, some good may have come out of the rantings of this particular deluded Anonymous Coward.

Raffy
August 2006 CE